With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. I do keep finding myself attracted to people who seem to have a strong primal power under the surface, and I dont really feel connected to Pluto myself (I dont know if thats on purpose or simply because its otherwise weakly aspected in my chart). would you please shed some light as you see fit? They are deceiving themselves, would be a better way to say it. Thank you =). Eros & Psyche in. That is why I dont mince words. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. Is there any way this could play out in a positive manner or should I watch my back? To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. Conjunctions, oppositions, and trines are best. I had this excerpt saved from somewhere on the internet, but don't have the original source. or you consider just the closer orbit? Knowing more. I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? This is a general rule, my Friend. the reason this is the case is that Mars is sexual drive( all drives actually). I have BML in my 1st house in Scorpio along with Venus and Saturn All are in conjunction with BML. Because of where my Moon is at 2 56 Scorpio conjunct Pluto at 4 36 Scorpio in the 8th house the men around my age (Im 35);tend to have their Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto In my current relationship my boyfriend has Mars/Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto. I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. under what theme of the forum? 1) Planetary house overlays (1, 5, 7, 8, 9 = most important) 2) Planetary aspects. IF the chart does not seem right, then I think the time of birth is off. I agree with Sydney. What would that mean? Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. It does indicate that both partners knew each other in a past life, but other romantic aspects are needed in the chart to create an energy strong enough for a marriage. Venus conj Chirondoes love seem to bring pain? The conjunction is excact. There are many, many possibilities in astrology, even infinite if Im speaking on the complexity of each persons chart. That is why it is so powerful. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. This aspect almost certainly speaks to karma from a past life marriage. Try to post the charts so see a visual! It makes me feel very crazy. 2021 - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. If a mans Nessus conjuncts, your Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars or North Node, he will abuse you, in my opinion. It is real to be neutral. 3 degrees is wide but this is one of the hardest aspects in the whole chart, so please be vigilant, as I know you will be! It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. Romantic Conjunctions in the 12th House If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. My Dejanira is in 5 Sag, like his North Node. In fact, it is the opposite. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. This can indicate marriage, but it can also indicate a long-term romantic or sexual relationship. It is a pleasure to be here. 4. We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. 3. I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. I dont mean to, but I think I find issues/hurts of my friends and partners and end up trying to mother them if thats what you meant. It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. Hi, we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. How we respond to this synastry contact has a lot to do with our own relationship to power and sexuality. Nonetheless, your interpretation of dejanira and nessus is intriguing. I believe her Dejanira is conjunct his Nessus by one degree. That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. Powerful, you say? Does nessus still be working as a tendency to abuse? 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. My eros was conjunct someone's mars and I did feel like whenever he was sexual, it was very erotic. Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. You can think that Im mad that what youre saying is real all you want, but the only thing that bothered me is your fatalistic outlook and claim of truth that is actually not real. Yes, it would. I know this is not my website, so I cannot change how you write and it is not my business to dictate how you write. Thank you, Lo and Welcome Eros in Synastry seems appropriate to discuss for this time of year. vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? They have transcended Nessus conj Dejanira, which is a new situation for me to see. Not eros. To learn more about the past life, look at the aspect, the houses in which the planets sit, and the signs. Dejanira (female) conjunct Saturn (male) Thanks for the push in this direction, my Friend. Saturn draws the couple together due to karma, but Juno and South Node aspects offer more of a choice. Maybe you felt this way sometimes given your Lilith-Eros contacts, but I was certainly the one more outwardly angry when the mess finally hit the fan. Their capacity for intimacy and shared desire to melt into the fires of transformation is nothing short of total risk, which each are compelled to take- no questions asked. His moon also conjunct my IC, orb 1. To summarize, I would say that Mars/Pluto could be passionate sex and passionate emotions but no soul.If a chart had no Moon aspects and Mars/Pluto aspects, I would say it would be a fling. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". Most potent are Eros-Venus, Eros-Ascendant, Eros-Psyche, and Eros-Mars links. It is a true soul mate aspect, to me. It seems like the man of your childhood dreams walked out of the ether into your life like the larger than life heroes on the movie screens. It will not heal anyone to tell them that they are wrong when they say that their relationship is healthy and happy even though they have an aspect that you think is destined to be unhealthy. He has a strong nessus (conjunct with his sun + true node in cancer ). Asteroids touching asteroids are not as powerful as asteroids touching persona; points on the chart such as the ASC, Moon, Sun, Venus etc. Your words mean a lot to me! This is not a dark aspect, either. It is disrespect to Astrology which I love and respect. Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? This vertex conjunction shows up again like in my previous relationship. and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). . There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. I do Astrology the way that I would want to learn it. Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. They have a very imaginative sex life. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. In my opinion, it will play out. I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. We are mesmerized, enchanted, and even obsessed with this person. Is there anything I can do to help her? My sun and deja are on his nn. For that reason, I am not for everyone and know this but I seem to be appreciated by people who think like I do. Their chemistry is obvious even after all these years but she did recently reveal that some light BDSM play is involved. 9. . Who does whom, so to speak? I hope I can do this in my articles. Ascendant opposite ascendant (1st house on the 7th house overlay). Yes very passionate.50shades of grey is just childplay. And thank you for this article, I should have said that before. Moon/Pluto in a trine is very powerful, too. It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. We have no moon aspects will this help? How do you relate to all the men who have their Pluto there? Sun sextile/trine/conjunct Moon is often found in marriage synastry charts. If you want to ask about 2 aspects, I will try to answer but an answer on the whole relationship needs an entire chart reading. You truly made my day! Hi Ami. Mars is the planet of passion, desire and sexual drive and Eros is the physical act of sex Re: Lilith conjunct . I had waaaaay more rage than he did (granted, there were reasons for that) and said things so hurtful that I wince now when I think about them. I dont really understand the aspect you are asking about. What about a mars 8th house overlay also trining pluto? 1) What would it mean when my nessus conjuncts his nessus? And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. You are very welcome, my Friend. Do you have their synastry you could post on my Forum? Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! Unlike Juno/Saturn aspects, Juno in aspect with the South Node does not necessarily indicate that marriage in this life will be a force. Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 (both in Capricorn) Im trying really, really hard not to jump to conclusions, so any help or advice you could give would be very much appreciated. It always starts this way. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 Can it be dangerous amiann? We are to take the blueprint that is given and then do what we want with it. With any Chiron aspect to the other persons Juno, there was a wound created through marriage in a past life. The wonderful thing about this aspect, especially with the conjunction is that love is brought into the lives of both, even if . Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. He has pholus conjunct dejanira, all on my BML exact. Lilith person helps Ceres person find their power and authenticity. Everyone should have one once in a lifetime, I suppose. She is deeply alluring and irresistible. If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? Most important to me is that you find Jesus. Thank you for this information! Most karmic astrology synastry reports dont take Chiron into account nearly enough. What conjuncts your Aura? I know it is not funny but the charts will play out, in my experience, anyway. Your analysis is lovely. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. Also, there is no abuse either way. What about Nessus conjunct Dejanira in synastry and there is no abuse whatsoever, what would that mean? I have my nessus conjunct with my true node. Finding Jesus is all that really matters in life. Lovely and very filled with passion! The issue is telling people that are in healthy relationships or people that are around a couple in a healthy relationship, that those aspects will certainly play out no matter what. He was considered irresistible. The planets, asteroids, and stars do not cause only one particular outcome. It is just the North Node, after all, not a personal planet. I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details. I have seen it in a few people, only. What about this aspects? Just from reading this, I think it looks very good but I really need to see the wheel as it is easier. That doesnt mean youve never been married. I am worried about being the abuser here. Coming from a standpoint of being an archaeologist, we can interpret and theorize things ourselves all we want, but an archaeologist telling a crowd of people that their own interpretation of the past is the TRUTH would not only be incredibly wrong, but it would also be detrimental to people that no nothing about interpreting and analyzing archaeological sites, therefore they would take that persons word even though it is not truth. This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear. Where did you get these theories from? The chart allows one to see oneself. I think you will have the urge to abuse. I am prone to being attacked in this way. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. Hi Amiann His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. Both of them are loaded with sexual power, so their interaction is often explosive. If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. Are they married, Lo. I also have moon trine neptune, venus conjunction chiron snd more aspects to do with empathy. That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. However, it's recommended to do an individual birthchart analysis before analyzing the Synastry to see the personal needs and potential for maintaining a healthy relationship. I have moon conjunct neptune and venus in 12th house. A recent past life will influence every bit of the relationship you have now. Thats your opinion. so what would it be? Lets see. Most Astrologers dont tell things straight like I do. tell me your story, if you care to, Juice dear. If the man is the Dejanira, he would be the victim. I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. Uranus is kink, so you do the math. One other thing that might be helpful with this asteroid pairing, and one that I think is quite meaningful. I cant really relate to Nessus at all, though I sometimes think I can feel BML itching under my skin. Conjunction, Opposition, Square, and Trine! Hardly. I do charts for the people who want them. Im not accepting you scaring people into running from possible happy, fulfilling relationships over one aspect that none of us even know how it can manifest in millions of ways. It takes me several hours so I could not do it here. Your feelings are not fact. Amazingly accurate. We can still find a lot of info with no time of birth. Eros in Aries makes a person love the chase. I haven't been able to find much discussion about this connection and I'm really interested in hearing stories from other people who've experienced it. Nessus conj the NN in the natal would be a person who would likely be abusive. You find them sexually attractive. I wonder if that would mean that he IS an abuser but couldnt abuse me ?? Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. 8. I suppose I should add that. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. Grace dear A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. "I want to welcome you to my website. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. M. % would be more ambient but felt imo Maria dear. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. Hello, what a great article, thank you. That is why I, affectionately, call them too hot not to cool down. There are certain aspects I see in these dark,nuclear passion relationships. Any other aspect will show a wound through marriage, but the marriage wasnt necessarily involving both parties together. The exception would be the person who overcame it through God. Lilith-Mars Aspects in Synastry (conjunction, sextile, trine, opposition, square) Lilith-Mars aspects are all about clash of desires. And when you really think about it this line of thought deserve to be abused is quite sociopathic in nature. thank you again for being so welcoming, Thank you so much, Sovietlana! Eros Synastry Aspects: The asteroid, Eros, represents erotic love, sex, passion and intimacy. Vertex conjunct the ascendant is a frequent synastry aspect in the charts of romantic partners. They may not be able to see what you are up to and you could use this for your gain. I have my dejanira conjuct by one degree with my AC line. Composite: moon conjunct Neptune, Venus square Pluto, Black moon lilth conjunct Pluto square mars conjunct ceres..any explanations on this type of relationship would be very helpful!!?? Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. But I do see this possibly helping people with many bad aspects that could show any possibility of abuse in their own chart already whom have actually been through anything so that this can help them feel validated about past or current pains, but its not good to deem things as going to play out in time just because they havent yet in a long standing, healthy relationship. Thank you, Kay <3 Great questions. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. You both feel admiration for each other. What does this conjunction mean in a synastry? I was wondering how abuse would play itself out if the Nessus-Deja synastry conjunction is in Cancer. Do you see what I mean. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. You may be fated to marry. What I've read about Lilith makes it seem to me that she's sort of like the Feminine's Pluto with lots of primal sexual urges thrown in, so I'm sure she rooted herself comfortably into your already heavily Plutonic relationships. Ceres person appreciates this, as they typically focus more on caregiving than on their own inner desires. There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. Eros and Venus in a synastry chart! If you know, let me know! With the Lilith conjunct sun, the Sun person is seduced by the other Lilith person. The Moon person feels comforted by the Sun person's energy and the Sun person feels like they can be vulnerable with the Moon person. There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. I often see this aspect in the charts of couples who have been married for many years. This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? Is this a synastry, Ariel? I have to always be honest. Things dont come out until marriage, sometimes. You do not have to do their chart. There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. Well you may want to take advantage of their trust and innocence. Amazing emotional+sexual chemistry though there was some bumps in the way. Thank you Ariel! Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. My jupiter conjunct his sun and venus. I guess ill post mine and then our synastry chart. There are many past life synastry charts that dont show marriage through these 5 obvious aspects, but its clear from reading the whole chart that the pair had a significant relationship in a past life. Thats like saying everyone with their own natal mars square pluto aspect makes them destined to be molested. Lovely, Lo! However, this person would have to play it out before he overcame it. my sun in exact opposition to his pluto (I have this aspect in the natal chart) and my pluto in conjunction with his sun in an orb of 7 even far he can feel it? TEA & ROSEMARY LLC. Well, I have been thinking about the situation. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. Those interpretations CAN happen, but they are not destined to. That`s very interesting information. It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. It is sad! what would result from this? the Moons will make for best friends. The year started with powerful and forward thinking energy that will assist in elevating us both spiritually and subconsciously. Uranus/Mars in synastry can be kinky. Also, I try to be very direct to counter the tendency in many Astrologer not to take a stand. 10. Our composite moon is at 26 Virgo and pluto at 0 libra. These parts of you would flow well i.e may not play out in actual asbuse but would still be issues you both would deal with i.e abuse/victimhood imo I have not seen the trine in actual charts, dean. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. Your passions are overwhelming, spontaneous, and you develop your attractions without even thinking about it. Another asteroid that is dark is Dejanira. I've never experienced it myself, but have read that Lilith/Pluto contacts are also intensely sexual and even violent (particularly the opposition). I know my life, and what manifests in it. Having a planet you have on your 7th house falling on their 1st house and a planet in your 1st house falling on their 7th house and vice-versa which would create an opposite between the two planets in the synastry chart. Telling people that something will happen to them because of an aspect is what you in particular FEEL is going to happen, but that is not the truth. It is typical cat and mouse game with taboo twists. I generally cannot stand them, and their tendency to be arogant and conceited towards anyone who doesnt think the way they do does come across as downright abusive to me. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. We enter the month of February, with lust, love and passion. Crow Symbolism: Spiritual Meaning Of The Crow, 6 Effective Studying Spells For Exams, Class, & Enhanced Focus, Winter Solstice & Yule: Rituals, Traditions, And Ways To Celebrate. I reply to the comments out of order because I do it on the central comment form. As I see more pieces, I think my awareness shifts, and I do feel like that makes a difference. Groom conjunct the Vertex. As a result, this aspect can feel like opening a can of worms that literally fly, not crawl, out of the unconscious. It's been suggested that an understanding of someone's natal Eros gives you the keys to unlock their erotic desires. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. In this video we will discuss the aspects between #Sun and #Eros in a synastry chart in Mix - Eros and Sun in Synastry! To me, it always is. That is my commitment to my readers. Im not saying it is impossible for the aspects to play put for people, because a lot of times, you do see it come into play, but really only when ones own natal supports that factor with aspects between actual planets. ami, what would nessus trine dejanira in synastry indicate. Who is whom? Lilith, both Black Moon and Asteroid 1181, brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger, rejection and rage. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. I know this came off a bit more forward, but only because I want to make it clear that one persons feelings are not fact. . Still, even without the conjunction, I have Nessus in the 1st house, which would make me abusive, according to these theories, and I dont fit. How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! Sydney, you are amazing. "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. xx. The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. Copyright [the-year] [site-link] | This website is intended for entertainment purposes only. His Nessus makes no major aspect to my planets, except a 3 orb trine to my Mercury and North Node, and Vertex..could this mean well step on each others toes when it comes to reaching our goals? My DEJA in home 6 in opposition to your NESUS in my house 12 to 10 degrees from my ascendant. It gives no leg room, and its fearful to people. About Nessus/BML, I would watch it. His abuse asteroid on her midheaven would be her reputation and career, right? Again, telling people to get out of or stay out of relationships with an aspect that you in particular think will cause them harm is not healing in any aspect of the word. And how did you arrive at the conclusion that Nessus and Dejanira are indicative of abuse? Synastry: Sun square Pluto, sun conjunct Amor, sun conjunct psyche, Pluto conjunct moon, Venus square Pluto, (they have Venus square Pluto)natal also, mars sextile Venus, Mars conjunct Sappho and trine Uranus (they have mars square Uranus natal mars) tine Jupiter, Venus conjunct Neptune and sun conjunct Venus and Eros square Pluto, Eros conjunct kaali, Venus conjunct kaali all opposite Nessus!! What is your opinion on (double-whammy..) xx, haha you are so cute, I like you and you write very simple and easy to understand. Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 Maybe also Mars/Uranus? Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. I know our feelings are mutually intense but certainly we experience our relationship from different perspectives. Moon conjunct pluto Im composite and moon in 12th house composite (our feelings were a secret for a long time as we didnt know how we felt and were not able to be together for a long time). If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. Do you know what these aspects could mean? on Dejanira and Nessus.
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