Although we were all poor, I knew that I could go to any door, ask for a piece, and get it. We engraved pet medallions and Jackie let me do it because I had nice handwriting. Over the years the Wine Alley had been severely neglected by the council and in the 1980s like a lot of places in Britain people were faced with high unemployment, drug abuse and crime, it continued to get worse and the homes were in such a bad state due to continued council neglect and lack of investment that they were demolished by 1995 and the people scattered to the 4 corners of Govan and beyond.http://www.acumfaegovan.com My Aunt Marg & Uncle Jack Johnstone had the paper shop on Govan Road. I remember my mum and dad and telling me how Govan was full of works, tenements, shops and pubs and how it was a vibrant place, this was very different from 1970s Govan that I grew up in, instead it was like a town after the blitz, I remember large areas of spare ground where the tenements and shops once stood, I remember playing in the old derelict tenements and works and in the rubble of demolished tenements, in the old tenements in Orkney Street we pretended to pour pints in the old Albert Bar. We lived in a low-down coal-fire heated home at 9 Lettoch Street and we only ever moved once and that was to the house directly above us. 114m Nailsby Taylor . Laurel Brook. Govan and Fisher, former NBA player and current head coach for the Los Angeles Sparks, got married on Saturday at Cielo Farms in Malibu, California. The man caught in the earlier operation with 50,000 of drugs in Helen Street was given six years. My mum's brother Spinx (George Hewitt) stayed in Teucharhill and my dad's brother Alex Rodgers drove a milk float. There was a chapel in the parish at Partick. Creeaz un cont nou. Used go there for coffee and listen to juke box. I married in Glasgow, Scotland in 1974 and emigrated to Canada that same year, I have lived in Canada ever since. Zabudli ste daje na prstup k tu? ), the street was a dead end because a school had burnt down. The spin put on the regeneration programmes of the past have put too much emphasis on bricks and mortar rather than helping people deal with their own problems themselves. I can remember having to use the toilet on the landing using a massive key to open the door. The area was originally a country estate which contained a mansion house, Moore Park, which was built in the early 19th century for the Hagart family, to plans prepared by the architect David Hamilton. Although the scheme had a bad reputation for crime, drinking and violence, as a child I never felt unsafe or deprived in any way and knew only kindness from my family, friends, relatives and neighbours. My husband and I ended up going into the USA. I then went to Govan High, teachers I remember and not with any fondness are Jockey Rayburn (Maths) Duncan (English) and Miss Downny (Maths) who was a lovely teacher, I had two brother George and Stuart who also went to the same primary and also went to Govan High. However, the local paper still remained hostile, hypocritical, and unhelpful about the whole idea. I was the smallest and skinniest one there, there were about 10 of us up on the dyke, they're all shouting at me, so I shouts I'm just gettting ready. I used to go to Jack's Bakers on a Saturday morning for a dozen rolls and half a dozen teabread and I still got change from a half a crown (12.5 pence), happy days! The owner later came in with home-made tablet for all of us. Reading the posts recognised a few names. [5][6] Along with being physically hemmed in by factories and a railway branch line, and issues which were shared by other 'rehousing' developments of the time - namely low-quality building materials, few amenities and socio-economic difficulties associated with the demise of local industries (particularly shipbuilding in the case of Govan) - this label gave Moorepark a stigma as one of the city's most notorious 'schemes'.[7][8]. Glasgow Braendam Link, aims to support, empower and enable all those involved in the partnership to gain more control of their lives by encouraging self-belief, growth and development. British Shipbuilders road to privatisation was not as swift, and the group was sold piece by piece throughout the course of the 1980s. Directions to Wine Alley Govan (Glasgow) with public transport The following transport lines have routes that pass near Wine Alley Govan Bus : 121 23 26 X19 Train : SCOTRAIL Light rail : SUB How to get to Wine Alley Govan by Bus? Just answering Margaret Fletcher's post below. Following decades of decline, with existing residents experiencing prejudice and only those with little other choice willing to move to the area, Moorepark was named by The Independent newspaper in April 1994 as one of the worst areas in the United Kingdom, with drug abuse being a widespread problem and unemployment standing at nearly 30% (up to three times the national average at the time). Went to the new Hills Trust School in about 1975 where Mrs Carnegie was head teacher. I spent 18 months there before being released on a three-year parole where I took a job in the local Cleansing Department as a midgy-man. Business . By the early 80s, much of the place had acquired an air of dilapidation and neglect. I considered that I did a real job and that what he did for a living was nonsense. The yard eventually closed in the wake of the collapse of the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders consortium in 1971.[35]. The main point of the Presentation was that, in an area which had lost 80% of its population (between 1951 and 2001), the re-zoning of demolished housing areas for warehousing and offices meant that there was less chance of people coming back into the area to live, as houses were needed in these areas and not anonymous commercial barns and offices. I was born in 1950 and brought up in Govan in the Moorepark housing estate or the Wine Alley, as it was commonly known. I was born in 1961. I was shown the door and advised to join the cubs, which I did, but I would have enjoyed being the 1st Lifebhoy. Contact. We always used to stop at your house on the way home from St. Anthony`s school, for a blether. Their powerlessness in this matter soon became clear when Moorepark was deliberately targeted as a dumping ground for Glasgows homeless, those on low incomes, and people with few housing points who were enabled to jump the waiting list if they accepted a house in the scheme. I've looked at several sites like this, in search of a memory or a photo and never found a thing - yet it was a Govan institution. Contents Where Were Hanged In Glasgow? Of all the memories that I hold dear as a very young boy, was the guy pushing a barrow every Saturday afternoon selling bags of whelks! Not Now. With five suspected drug dealers in the cells and 200,000 worth of heroin seized, it had been a very productive day for the police. This article is about the district in Glasgow. When in trouble the Govanites all come together. When Damer returned to the area in 1989 he found that his earlier report had had two outcomes. Many of the men worked at the shipyards or the preserves factory. Also remember when we started school in 1943, we had to carry our gas masks with us. Vezi mai multe de la Sunny Govan Memories pe Facebook. You have to take the responsibility for some of that.''. the tall man aboriginal spirit; metadata api request failed: component conversion failed: file_ended; caleb foote sandlot Worst of all were the problems relating to the 759 flats and maisonettes in the Hutchestown Area E phase at Crown Street. A big gang of kids would all go to the pictures on Saturday afternoon and one kid would pay to get in and then would go round to the fire escape door and open it and let the rest of the kids in for free. My Mother took me to the Southern and a giant black man came in. Two associated Christian burials are radiocarbon dated to the 5th or 6th centuries, making Govan the earliest known Christian site in the region. Former. on our backs to the midden motor outside the closes or houses where we worked. who traditionally incorporate the red and black civic colours in the socks of their kit;[43] their Ibrox Stadium has a stand named for Govan (the closest to the heart of the burgh), although officially this was re-named after their former player Sandy Jardine in 2014.[44]. Only neighbours I remember were children Mary and her younger brother James Haggerty who lived in same close which I think was 95 Golspie Street. Providing activities for member children and young people Providing informal and formal training for family members I was born in Govan in 1930 and went to Saint Constantine's Elementary School and then on to Saint Gerard's in 1941, I was at St Gerard's until 1946. The authors would like to thank Glasgow Braendam Link, The Faith in Community (Scotland) Transformation Team, Oxfams UK Poverty Programme, and the Poverty Alliance for suggesting the idea of this project for the worlds Poverty Day on October 17th 2005. The police discovered an empty flat on the eighth floor which would give them a birds eye view of the entrance to Burnsides tenement flat close. One of his best customers was a former police officer who had been thrown out the force due to his heroin addiction. Henry (Harry) Knop was born in Govan in 1902, he married Susan Bowie in 1924, they had at least 5 children; Harriet, Frederick, Arthur, Helen and Henry, Harry Knop died in 1976. He was lim, dark-haired and kind, probably in his 30s. Without a home, mankind has no place. See more of Sunny Govan Memories on Facebook. Prihlsi sa. During my first year studying sociology I came across Damer again in the form of a book that he had written about poverty and deprivation in the Wine Alley but put it to the back of my mind. Resources were stretched as detectives dealt with high levels of violence including murder - much of it drug related. 100m Freshair Salon . Born 1945, 28 Craigton Road two up in the hole in the wall, I went to Greenfield Primary remember headmaster name a Mr Hutchinson, a Miss Burnside, miss Blackstock. 15 Saturday Home, 2005, p. 20 16Vindicated1, 2005, p. 1-2, Acknowledgements Skater Girl. This is a 12th-century Latin source, but one believed to be based on much earlier materials; it records a place near Dumbarton Rock named Ouania. Next thing, I found myself lying on the ground. I was born in 23 McGregor Street Teucharhill in 1962 and remember my mum waiting until the last minute and getting a lift to the polling station, promising to vote for whichever party candidate provided the transport (aye right) still though when the 70s arrived I would have voted for the blonde wummin shouting through a megaphone at the end of the street even though I'd no idea what she was on about or what party she represented, she was a bit of a belter called Margo MacDonald. Here in the alley, you will find tasting rooms such as Truth Teller Winery, Baer Winery, Ancestry Cellars, Adam's Bench and the office of Woodinville Wine Country. There is a story By Danny Cahley born In 57 Hamilton Street, Govan it was renamed Nethan Street if I remember correctly. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. I remember the days my sister and I would take part in the fair while we were in a dancing school, which was named Thompsons. During the Viking Age, following the sack of Dumbarton Rock in 870, Govan is believed to have been one of the major centres of the Kingdom of Strathclyde. I remember one time, my big brother hiding in the midden under all the ashes, when I went down three stories to empty the fire ashes. 10 Bailey and Hastings, 2004, p. 91 I loved it there we could watch the ships being built and then launched from the bedroom window. Govan is served by community radio station Sunny Govan, broadcasting on 103.5FM to the city of Glasgow and surrounding districts, discussing local issues and providing advice, and with diverse musical output covering soul, hip-hop and reggae. I was attending what was then known as Duns Academy when my father decided to emigrate to Canada. I thought you wrote "hides in a fridge and dodges an erection!" . Nobody like them in the World. Servicii comunitare. Govan Old Parish Church was rebuilt in 1762, 1826, and again 1884-1888. My mother was born at 68 Harmony Row in 1924, when she was about 10 she was sent to Dand's Drapers on Langlands Road to buy thread for a neighbour and got her finger caught in the door which resulted in losing the tip of it which gave her years of pain, on a lighter note on the subway to hospital she had to pace up and down with pain which resulted in her leaving the subway with her pockets jingling. [31], In 1999, GEC's Marconi Marine division purchased the yard when Kvrner announced its departure from the shipbuilding industry. Community organisation. 4, Soon, the housing scheme had a bad name. However, as little seems to have changed in the last 30 years does this mean that at last, local communities are to be involved in making decisions about their futures? My father "served his time" in the Thermotank then for many years was a policeman in Plantation Street. Another is the horses and carts assembled at Harmony Row. [14] in 1901 the Burgh boundaries increased further west to include Linthouse and West Drumoyne. Like Pauline I also went to St. Margaret's and I also recall Susan's Shop. Somewhere along the Govan Road, there was a sweet shop with a train set that would go around all the big jars of sweets. Historically it was part of the County of Lanark. I used to go to the Harhill Baths every Friday night.Saturday mornings, afternoons were at the Lyceum or The Plaza Picture Houses. Add your own memories or stories by clicking here. I still have a picture in my mind of your father Guido, a very handsome man. We moved to Cardonald when I was very small but used to go back to Govan all the time and stay with my grannie at 711 Govan Road, above McLarens Newsagents. My Aunt Marg and Cousin Debbie still live in Govan. Their children's names were John, Michael, Christopher, Bridget and Edward. A Gannett Company. Drug and alcohol abuse was a widespread problem and unemployment stood at 30% - three times the national average. The Wine Alley is a boutique wine shop specializing in fine wines from the Pacific NW and Around the world! Sergeant Angus McIvor and constable Bob McDonald were the two cops who had bravely filmed the gang operating from one of the empty flats. In 1975 the sociologist Sean Damer went to live for six months in Britains most notorious housing scheme, Moorepark, or as it was known to all The Wine Alley of Govan in Glasgow. 13 Bailey and Hastings, 2004, p. 92 3.75/4 3.75 / 4 (0 reviews) Staff Knowledge & Friendliness 4/4. By the 1860s, the village needed a higher order of administration and it was made a burgh in 1864, under the General Police (Scotland) Act 1862. I'm thinking I never whined at them again. the 550 tenancies available, only 33 (16%) were identifiably from Govan itself. One hypothesis is that it was a prehistoric burial mound. There I was, short hair, snotty-nosed from crying and eating an ice cream cone. During the late 19th century, the population of Govan increased more than tenfold: from 9,000 in 1864 to 95,000 by 1907. Creeaz un cont nou. [17][18], A prominent feature of the Govan landscape was the Doomster or Moot Hill, which stood near the river, north of the present Govan Cross. He also complained about the abusive term Wine Alley, which was always quoted by officialdom whenever Moorepark scheme came under discussion Contact Us. Listing details information provided by Stephen Redding. My mother, Elsie Walker lived with siblings; Edward, Betty, Beatrice and Edith in Belch Street, it was a small street with only one close and not one single Govan person I have ever met can remember it! I remember Vogue would show two part Westerns that made us come back the following Saturday to find out who won the fight, there was also an entertainer named "uncle Harry" who would go up on the stage when the movie was over and ask us to wave our white hankies that we were asked to bring, we would all stand up and sing "Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag" before we left. The Old Govan Fair. NGR NS 55416 65081. Now her daughter (my mother) is 92 years old and I am fascinated by the stories which her mother passed down to her and now to me. When he had gone, we used to draw pictures in the coal dust on the white sheet on our bed. They were followed there and back by a second surveillance team and the vehicle stopped near Ibrox. Moreover, there will be no demolition or destruction of any part of Govans heritage on the contrary the important Iron Age site of Doomster Hill will be marked with grass, and not encroached upon by the new housing while a special corridor will link it with Govan Old Parish Church, which is one of the earliest Christian sites in Britain. It was massive and as a wee girl it was magical, as well as Dands I also remember Bobbys on Langlands Rd, I got my Bay City Rollers trousers there, lol, there was loads of shoe shops in Govan, one was called Cherries I'm sure, also a massive one can't remember name, just round from Burleigh St, a few years back it was Bradley's chemist. My Gran Haggerty lived in 3 Helen Street Govan (above the CO OP). Reply. Especially in the Scottish context, given the important role that they have played in community planning. [21], The area has had a reputation for deprivation and poverty, partly due to the construction of housing estates in the 1930s to relieve the overcrowded slum district of The Gorbals, Glasgow. At the time this article was written in the local Southside paper, prices for the projected apartments were going up dramatically among the speculators.14 A few hundred yards east of this development, one-bedroom apartments at the newly built QE3 (Clydeside Festival Park) in Govan were selling for 129,995 while two-bedrooms at the same place will cost you 199,995. Conecteaz-te. I cleaned it up and he must have been watching, as he came back out to see if I had done well. I have been looking up my family history and her father Michael and all his brothers and sisters were born in Govan between 1884 and 1896. My paternal grandfather was an engine keeper for the Phoenix Copper Works, and lived on Brighton Street. The first, Moorepark Grounds, was situated to the north of the mansion from the early 1900s and made way for the housing development;[12] the second (New Moore Park, opened in 1929) was to the south-west of the neighbourhood off Edmiston Drive[12] and had fallen into some disrepair before being replaced by a business park at the turn of the 21st century, with the club moving to new facilities at Shieldhall after some years of uncertainty.[13][14]. I went about with Harry Bitters, Nick Shearer and John McLeod in the mad days of the early 70s. Hi Catherine, I also lived at 100 Harmony Row and also live in Canada. Its cells were just as grim but did not seem to deter the many local villains who frequented them on a regular basis. The first trade I learnt was stealing and gambling yet it seemed normal to all of us as children. The Govan of my parents had gone, the works and the jobs and the people they spoke about had all gone. Encouraging families to participate in the community and to use local facilities and services Ensuring that the voice of those living in poverty is heard An isolated island of cheap building land, Glasgow Corporation bought the Moorepark land and in 1934 built the Moorepark Housing Estate, a typical Glasgow rehousing scheme of three-storey grey concrete-block tenements. Driscoll, Stephen, "Govan, an early medieval royal centre", p. 79. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. Would love to get in touch with any old pals for the era 1965-1976. [30] British Shipbuilders' sale of Govan to the Norwegian firm was completed in 1988, and the yard was renamed Kvaerner Govan. My granny Flora McFadyen was one of the oldest and longest residents in the Wine Alley. I worked there for a time early 60s I left in 1962. It was fantastic staying there, 3 family's stayed in each cottage. Read More. The Catholic Church that was located in Stanley Street was I believe the largest Catholic Church in Glasgow and at one time had 5 resident Priests. I lived in Kintra Street from 1946 until 1960 and went to Broomloan Road school then Govan High. Glorious Govan. Lots of other good memories but also remember the terrible fires which took place. I was born in Govan in 1941. I remember the baths and went there every Friday, I also remember playing in the street and when the coalman came my mum and I would follow him with a pram and pick up any coal that fell of the lorry. Many members of the family were married at St Anthonys Chapel. Wine Alley, the newest wine tasting experience to open at Woodin Creek Village in Woodinville, WA, debuted with a ribbon cutting ceremony and grand opening event on February 18, 2022. Wine Quality 4/4. Redevelopment was never completed and the combined effects of poor building specifications, and carelessness in the design of the surrounding spaces were becoming embarrassingly apparent. One was that there was no real attempt at involving the tenants in these changes, nor was there any attempt at involving the community in the future management of their own locale. [42] The ships were built by the following companies: Robert Napier & Company, Randolph Elder & Company, Dobbie Hedderwick & Co., Dobie & Company, Mackie & Thomson, Smith & Rodgers, London & Glasgow Engineering and Iron Shipbuilding Co. Ltd., William Beardmore & Company, John Elder & Company, Fairfield Shipbuilding & Eng. It was like growing up in a wasteland! Forgotten account? In Great Britain, community planning has evolved and not only has it kept its identity, but it has also retained its application as a primary vehicle through which social change is enacted at a local level, by members of the community acting together to improve the lifestyle of the group as a whole. Ai uitat contul? So, at the age of 46 I started three years of studies with projects that involved Govan Initiative and Glasgow University until I was finally accepted as a full-time student at Glasgow. Glasgow Braendam Link, Pearce Institute, 840 Govan Road, Govan, Glasgow, G51 3UU Photos: Splash News. Life in wine alley I was born in 1950 and brought up in Govan in the Moorepark housing estate or the Wine Alley, as it was commonly known. It was followed by an undercover drugs team down the M8, onto the M74 and over the border into England. Finally, Darners last thoughts on a solution to Mooreparks spiralling problems were that it could be found in Community Planning. It was a real shame to junk those old tenements instead of refurbishing them. Other Sundays maybe Helen and I would visit the graves of our mothers at Cardonald Cemetery (her mother died when she was 5). Again, as happened in Moorepark in the mid 1970s, selective letting policies resulted in the housing of people who suffered not only from economic deprivation but had many related social problems of drink, drugs, and petty theft. Govan was thriving in those days. I was in the 102 Life Boys then the Boys Brigade with my big brother Tommy. I was born in Southern General 1971, lived in 1 Elder Street with my mum Ina Quinn and dad Peter Quinn, brothers and sister. The SNP won another by-election victory in 1988, this time with Jim Sillars as candidate. Used to have a friend called Theresa Moody who died quite young. 'The. In 1901 Govan was the 7th largest town in Scotland. My Granny, Cassie Donaghey stayed at 9 Orkney Street, Govan where I went at weekends and for holidays (Yeah from Drumchapel). Govan was a wonderful place to start on life's trails. I have memories of buying penny and thrupny canes there to make a bow 'n arrows. I was born in Govan, at home, on Luath Street in 1935. I remember Betty McPhee, Margaret Liversidge, the Gourlay brothers and Brian Wilson.We lived in the top floor for a few years and the moved to bigger flat on first floor with a bathroom. . I stayed at 146 Copland Road above the Light Blue Cafe went to Ibrox primary School 1941 till 1948 happy times. When I got married I moved to Arden, I now live in Clarkston in the South of Glasgow. We sold puppies, kittens, mice, fish and I promise you, they were cleaned and cared for with the tenderest of love and care, and caution was exerted when people tried to buy them. In fact, the idea was publicly abused in the first of the two SEU documents above. Went back recently, but things are not the same. Any way they started to ask us our schools and of course my mates answered Broomloan Rd, Bellahouston and Lorne St, but when it came my turn my truthful answer was Our Lady and St Margaret's Primary just up the road from here. Wineally for Wine Producers We make your wines shine by having them served with matching dishes in restaurants or at home. Management of entrance into the block zones was poor while the risk of personal attack inside and outside the flats was high. Eventually, my dad arrived asking if anyone had handed in a wee lassie. We left govan to go to Drumchapel. If there is anyone out there that remembers me please contact me :). Went to Drumoyne primary then Govan High. Govan (/ v n / GUV-n; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland.It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0 km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick.Historically it was We stayed next door to the Mellon's in 31 Rathlin Street for a short time, I was friendly with your brother Paul. The idea behind the hotel was to employ local people and to draw in money to the area.
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